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		<title>By: OxTrader</title>
		<link>http://www.focalequity.com/2009/10/23/ew-and-fib-update/comment-page-1/#comment-91024</link>
		<dc:creator>OxTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOHU beat this morning and could help BIDU. I can see where 451 is possible, but purely on an earnings gamble. It could trade very much like AMZN did. I personally wouldn&#039;t gamble on the earnings play after hours, but would give it every opportunity on Tuesday if it were to follow the AMZN pattern. After hours trading could easily run it up to 451 only to see if fall before pre-market on Tuesday, so be careful.  It is hard to trade stocks at all time highs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOHU beat this morning and could help BIDU. I can see where 451 is possible, but purely on an earnings gamble. It could trade very much like AMZN did. I personally wouldn&#8217;t gamble on the earnings play after hours, but would give it every opportunity on Tuesday if it were to follow the AMZN pattern. After hours trading could easily run it up to 451 only to see if fall before pre-market on Tuesday, so be careful.  It is hard to trade stocks at all time highs.</p>
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		<title>By: woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i will try to chart BIDU and QQQQ before the day begins, but i can&#039;t guarantee it at the moment. sorry! had a really busy weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i will try to chart BIDU and QQQQ before the day begins, but i can&#8217;t guarantee it at the moment. sorry! had a really busy weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>totally agree. trading strategy is the MOST important aspect of making money on the stock market. good charts only gets you part way there. locking in steady profits is the hard part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally agree. trading strategy is the MOST important aspect of making money on the stock market. good charts only gets you part way there. locking in steady profits is the hard part.</p>
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		<title>By: woo</title>
		<link>http://www.focalequity.com/2009/10/23/ew-and-fib-update/comment-page-1/#comment-91017</link>
		<dc:creator>woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everybody is buying this manipulation. even though we&#039;ve got people here on this site who regularly short the market, you have to remember that a huge number of the american population, from 401k&#039;s to other retirement stock accounts only hold long. and a lot of people (me included) don&#039;t care how the market is brought up, we just buy and sell accordingly. 

with american debt so high and all that stimulus plan money, i&#039;m surprised the dollar didn&#039;t devalue sooner. oil is heavily manipulated from OPEC to random news on the market. i think there&#039;s a huge amount of oil being found lately, but they&#039;re keeping that news on the down low. even when oils hit all time highs, many analysts were saying that it wasn&#039;t driven up by supply and demand at all. i wouldn&#039;t base too much of what will happen to oil on the news. i would watch the charts very closely for that one. some of the guys/gals have been posting regularly on oil and have been making a killllllllllling. kudos to them!

faz i haven&#039;t charted yet, but i have charted fas really quickly. FAS is currently in a rising channel, and has some additional trend line support right now. if the $80 area breaks soon on the FAS, you could see a drop to the $60 range, not sure what that equates to on FAZ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everybody is buying this manipulation. even though we&#8217;ve got people here on this site who regularly short the market, you have to remember that a huge number of the american population, from 401k&#8217;s to other retirement stock accounts only hold long. and a lot of people (me included) don&#8217;t care how the market is brought up, we just buy and sell accordingly. </p>
<p>with american debt so high and all that stimulus plan money, i&#8217;m surprised the dollar didn&#8217;t devalue sooner. oil is heavily manipulated from OPEC to random news on the market. i think there&#8217;s a huge amount of oil being found lately, but they&#8217;re keeping that news on the down low. even when oils hit all time highs, many analysts were saying that it wasn&#8217;t driven up by supply and demand at all. i wouldn&#8217;t base too much of what will happen to oil on the news. i would watch the charts very closely for that one. some of the guys/gals have been posting regularly on oil and have been making a killllllllllling. kudos to them!</p>
<p>faz i haven&#8217;t charted yet, but i have charted fas really quickly. FAS is currently in a rising channel, and has some additional trend line support right now. if the $80 area breaks soon on the FAS, you could see a drop to the $60 range, not sure what that equates to on FAZ.</p>
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		<title>By: woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good advice.

in terms of your question i actually HAVE considered this move up to be the A of an ABC, with A being 5 waves, and a B coming up. prior to the ABC expanded flat correction theory, i was basing charts off of a P1 666 bottom, with this current 5 wave up being the A of ABC like you mentioned. however, when the 1080s area passed, this started posing problems for the overall larger ABC scenario. then for C to stay within the 61% retrace of the complete drop from 1500s to 666, you would need B to drop below the 61% retrace of A. then you get a really overextended B, or you get a C that is retracing far too deeply into P1. the expanded flat correction theory seems to be the best explanation at the moment, and i am no longer leaning towards a larger ABC happening. 1118-1120 area is my current top of P2. good question ox!

also i agree with you that i don&#039;t think idan should be seen as wrong or getting a bad rap. you have to take everything into context. idan is not trading large positions in stock right now, and on top of that he is only trading positions on heavily overbought stocks. he is staying away from SPY positions because he knows there is a possibility of a rise to come. you can be wrong in a 1% position of your portfolio, and lose 1% on a stop out of that 1% position and it can literally be nothing in the grand scheme of your portfolio. he is leaning short because he is dealing with overbought stocks, and for overbought stocks, there is nothing wrong with leaning towards a short position, especially when those overbought positions have the chance of falling prior to the major indexes. i personally think that idan has been doing a great job on getting in good positions, and stopping out for very small losses, or for good sized profits. if you lose money based on another person&#039;s suggestions and analysis, you can only blame yourself, and remember that idan does all this analysis for free and is here to help people. 

one thing i want to clarify and keep trying to stress on the site is that it&#039;s a family, team, charity (maybe not? haha). we&#039;re not here to argue with each other, or to be more right than somebody else. if there are disagreements it doesn&#039;t mean that one person is calling you stupid or trying to disrespect you or your opinion. if someone questions your judgment, then back it up with more TA. if you disagree with somebody, back it up with TA. it&#039;s fine to joke around, and it&#039;s fine to gloat when you&#039;re right because we really are happy for you when you make a profit (even football players do a dance in the endzone), but don&#039;t do it at the expense of someone else (calling people out, etc.). the reason we&#039;ve kept quality people here giving free advice and helping out everyday is because of the quality of not only the TA, but of the atmosphere also (at least that&#039;s what i think). if you&#039;re paying for a site, and someone is managing your money, and they lose it, then sue or cause a ruckus. at stocktock, let&#039;s just enjoy the day and try and help each other all make some money. 

glad that we&#039;re getting all this feedback, comments and interest! there&#039;s TONS of quality in these comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good advice.</p>
<p>in terms of your question i actually HAVE considered this move up to be the A of an ABC, with A being 5 waves, and a B coming up. prior to the ABC expanded flat correction theory, i was basing charts off of a P1 666 bottom, with this current 5 wave up being the A of ABC like you mentioned. however, when the 1080s area passed, this started posing problems for the overall larger ABC scenario. then for C to stay within the 61% retrace of the complete drop from 1500s to 666, you would need B to drop below the 61% retrace of A. then you get a really overextended B, or you get a C that is retracing far too deeply into P1. the expanded flat correction theory seems to be the best explanation at the moment, and i am no longer leaning towards a larger ABC happening. 1118-1120 area is my current top of P2. good question ox!</p>
<p>also i agree with you that i don&#8217;t think idan should be seen as wrong or getting a bad rap. you have to take everything into context. idan is not trading large positions in stock right now, and on top of that he is only trading positions on heavily overbought stocks. he is staying away from SPY positions because he knows there is a possibility of a rise to come. you can be wrong in a 1% position of your portfolio, and lose 1% on a stop out of that 1% position and it can literally be nothing in the grand scheme of your portfolio. he is leaning short because he is dealing with overbought stocks, and for overbought stocks, there is nothing wrong with leaning towards a short position, especially when those overbought positions have the chance of falling prior to the major indexes. i personally think that idan has been doing a great job on getting in good positions, and stopping out for very small losses, or for good sized profits. if you lose money based on another person&#8217;s suggestions and analysis, you can only blame yourself, and remember that idan does all this analysis for free and is here to help people. </p>
<p>one thing i want to clarify and keep trying to stress on the site is that it&#8217;s a family, team, charity (maybe not? haha). we&#8217;re not here to argue with each other, or to be more right than somebody else. if there are disagreements it doesn&#8217;t mean that one person is calling you stupid or trying to disrespect you or your opinion. if someone questions your judgment, then back it up with more TA. if you disagree with somebody, back it up with TA. it&#8217;s fine to joke around, and it&#8217;s fine to gloat when you&#8217;re right because we really are happy for you when you make a profit (even football players do a dance in the endzone), but don&#8217;t do it at the expense of someone else (calling people out, etc.). the reason we&#8217;ve kept quality people here giving free advice and helping out everyday is because of the quality of not only the TA, but of the atmosphere also (at least that&#8217;s what i think). if you&#8217;re paying for a site, and someone is managing your money, and they lose it, then sue or cause a ruckus. at stocktock, let&#8217;s just enjoy the day and try and help each other all make some money. </p>
<p>glad that we&#8217;re getting all this feedback, comments and interest! there&#8217;s TONS of quality in these comments.</p>
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		<title>By: woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree that the market is hard to read. and yes, these are totally predictions as i always try to clarify, and can be WRONG. it&#039;s currently very hard for me to see 1250 at the moment, i would need to see a huge retrace before that possibility comes to life. we&#039;ll tackle that monster if it comes our way. =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree that the market is hard to read. and yes, these are totally predictions as i always try to clarify, and can be WRONG. it&#8217;s currently very hard for me to see 1250 at the moment, i would need to see a huge retrace before that possibility comes to life. we&#8217;ll tackle that monster if it comes our way. =P</p>
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		<title>By: woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks morris, wouldn&#039;t be the same without you around either. should be an interesting week to say the least.</description>
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		<title>By: woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hard to say exactly since it just hit my fib projection. could drop down to 112 short term. but it&#039;s up in a different channel now, so you would need to see a drop below 112 to start seeing some more downside. below that is 108 with a fib and trend line. then another fib and trend line at 104. always have tight stops on this stock. it&#039;s in new highs, and above a LOT of support areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hard to say exactly since it just hit my fib projection. could drop down to 112 short term. but it&#8217;s up in a different channel now, so you would need to see a drop below 112 to start seeing some more downside. below that is 108 with a fib and trend line. then another fib and trend line at 104. always have tight stops on this stock. it&#8217;s in new highs, and above a LOT of support areas.</p>
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		<title>By: woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>errr...i am still learning myself. even if you are good at charting, or can guess long term market movement, making money off of it is a completely different story. make sure to keep asking questions because there are tons of useful people on this forum that are willing to help and give their input. different people have different favorites and specialties. i&#039;m more of an SPY/SPX guy, but that may not be what&#039;s right for you. feel free to ask questions along the way. i&#039;ll try and post my buy and sell positions along the way. sometimes i&#039;ll post possible positions that are great for daytrades, but not feel i want to take the risk myself. thanks bbb!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>errr&#8230;i am still learning myself. even if you are good at charting, or can guess long term market movement, making money off of it is a completely different story. make sure to keep asking questions because there are tons of useful people on this forum that are willing to help and give their input. different people have different favorites and specialties. i&#8217;m more of an SPY/SPX guy, but that may not be what&#8217;s right for you. feel free to ask questions along the way. i&#8217;ll try and post my buy and sell positions along the way. sometimes i&#8217;ll post possible positions that are great for daytrades, but not feel i want to take the risk myself. thanks bbb!</p>
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		<title>By: woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just got home a little while ago from having errands and appointments all day. i&#039;ll have to take a look at BIDU and other stocks tomorrow or coming week. sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just got home a little while ago from having errands and appointments all day. i&#8217;ll have to take a look at BIDU and other stocks tomorrow or coming week. sorry!</p>
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