3:42pm
The market has shot up above the 23.6%… so now the likely target is the 38.2% retrace. Or at least 100.65 ish.
3:32pm
More conviction buying now… i’m guessing people are taking away their shorts before the jobs data number… I am somewhat optimistic on that number, but I don’t know how the market would react to it.. we haven’t reached the 1003-1004 target that i have on the SPX (38.2% retracement), that could be a turning point.
3:23pm
The market managed to rebound somewhat, this is a dead day, and tomorrow after the jobs number will probably another dead day (I’m assuming there is going to be some futures gap), I was hoping to get a sell off to sell into at the end of the day, we’ll have to see.
2:41pm
The Dow Just popped into the red again, the financials are losing some ground here.. My JPM short is doing great for now… AMED long is doing great as well… the SPY is slowly moving towards the lows, helped by weakness in oil. But still, there is no conviction in the selling.. my guess is that this type of selling is actually relatively sustainable, I would look for support at 99.80 and 99.60 but if we break those, the last hour is going to be just a lot of longs dumping, and I think there’s a high chance of that.
2:09pm
2pm reversal hasn’t really hit the market yet… AMED doing great, hitting new highs for the day, but the rest of the market has no conviction.. i’m hoping for a potential sell off. Oil has bounced a bit.. but just formed a 5 minute reversal candle.
1:48pm
Oil really weak here.. down about 0.6% in less than 20 minutes. AMED is the only long position that I took today and it’s up quite significantly since i took it. It’s actually rising right now as the market is selling off..
1:42pm
JPM giving away some of it’s gains here… after hitting my trendline. 2 pm reversal is soon, i wonder what we’re going to do, the market is undecided. If the market sells off hard, I will not be holding any shorts AT ALL into tomorrow.
1:38pm
Oil falling down here… VIX hitting the 61.8% retracement since the last rally in that index, but the SPY hasn’t given away anything.. something’s gotta give.
1:33pm
Oil very toppy here.. depending how we close the 10 minute.. but we are back a little below the neckline.. if we hold the neckline we could still see a rally.. a close below 68.3 would be bearish… I think financials should sell off soon due to oils current action.
1:10pm
So far the confirmation we got is not very clear we got a DOJI 5 minute candle…oil however is rallying, so therefore the likelihood of the market rallying is higher, once that rally dampens.. we could see a sell off. The market target for a rally will be between 1000-1004 on the SPX. A sell off will hit 99.60, 99 and then 98.60 (for today).
1:04pm
We could be getting a breakout to the upside here, with oil finishing its inverse H&S pattern and shooting up… the market will probably get a lift and a breakout from the triangle. Wait for a 2 candle 5 minute confirmation. AAPL has a potential H&S on the 5 minute…
12:55pm
Triangle formation on the SPY 3 minute intraday chart… not sure how that will play out, but it’s going one way or another and very soon:
12:38pm
Specific names in the market are starting to sell off a bit, we got oil away from the highs (although could be potentially forming an inverse H&S on the 5 minute), and we have AAPL showing a little bit more weakness, financials are off their highs but still remain strong, respectively. Notice that the last 2 days have been more like consolidation days, although the market was more flat than up. There are two views for something like that, either we sold off too hard and we get a reversal, or the market sentiment has become so bearish, that even a normal upward consolidation won’t be obtained. When the market was rallying, we got days where the market just stayed flat or rallied a little bit, and that was our consolidation… I think the reverse is possible too.
12:05pm
The market remains dead.. right now it looks like it’s forming a bear flag on the 10 minute SPY… but we can still get more upside due to strength from financials. Oil has also seemed to have bottomed here…even though it’s much weaker than the rest of the market. My AAPL short is down a little and so is my JPM short, which i’ll be adding to.
11:10am
JPM downward channel that broke down the day before yesterday, well now the support is resistance, sitting around 42.10-42.15… that will be my first short position in this name again, and I will be adding to this short as we go higher, at 42.60 and 43.30.
10:53am
Financials are holding up, this market won’t sell off until financials give in.
10:36am
We have reached the double bottom on the futures at 991 and bounced, there is a potential for an inverse H&S on the 2 minute SPY… that said, we are bouncing from the lows of the session and the bounce was not on high volume, today will be interesting, if the lows break, I think 980 is around the corner. I have to leave for 2 hours i will be back for the afternoon session.
10:09am
The only news that might actually drive us up tomorrow, is the jobs data, I’m hoping we continue falling today so that I can take away all my shorts off the table into tomorrow. I do expect a slightly better jobs number which can give the market some hope. Then again, I think that this will be the last better than expected jobs number.
10:07am
Wow 2 minutes after i wrote my message the market tannnnked, we hit the double bottom at 99.81, and are bouncing a little due to 1 minute oversold conditions.
10:01am
48.4 Vs 46.4 of last month, that’s still under 50! and just below expectations, the market is selling off a little bit. Even though the S&P held for a bit, other stocks aren’t, and i think the S&P will follow.
9:52am
ISM non-manufacturing coming out at 10 am.. that should move the markets, the last ISM was great but we sold off.
9:38am
I am adding to shorts on STEC, which was one of our short positions in the hedge fund, but we have taken profits on that yesterday morning. I am also going short some aapl for a potential of a H&S… again I hae a lot more cash to use once we move higher but this market is just held by bears here.
9:34am
Fibonaccis from the big sell off:
23.6% = 100.39
38.2% = 100.9
50% = 101.4 ish
61.8% = 101.74
9:31am
Even though the market has been strong in the futures, ever since the weekly jobs number came out we have sold off. The reason we rallied was because china rallied more than 4.5% but the bad jobs number sets badly into tomorrows big jobs number.
2:00am
Hey guys, so far the futures are looking like they are bouncing here… but you have to be careful, even though we are overdue for a 1 or even 2 day bounce, this market can actually surprise us to the downside yet again. As you can see on the SPY 60, XLF 60, we might have a little more to go before we fall to the neckline of the H&S… so i do expect a 1.5-2% drop from current levels very soon. Looking at GLD 60 minute, you can see that we might have a little more upside to go to the 97$ resistance top before we retrace to the breakout levels or at least form a bull flag. So these 3 charts tell me we might have some more downside to go as soon as tomorrow or friday. The JPM chart however shows that a bounce is imminent and that JPM has touched it’s potential H&S neckline, and can actually outperform the market for a few days (We took profit on this one yesterday). Finally the SPY 10 minute is right below, and shows you a possible channel that we have formed, and some technical levels. All these predictions below, are NOT accurate TIME WISE, they are more accurate price wise, and represent different scenarios. Remember that we are still in an ascending wedge, and until the support is broken (shown on the 60 minute SPY) we have not technically started P3.





IDAN,
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to post your thoughts on this blog. You are very generous with your knowledge and insights, and WE appreciate it more that you know.
Thanks again !
Yea, I’m so glad Idan’s back
Thursday
8:30am – Jobless Claims
10:30am – EIA Natural Gas Report
Friday
8:30am – Employment Situation
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nations_unemployment_outlook
Add ISM Services at 1000 ET
http://www.briefing.com/Investor/Public/Calendars/EconomicCalendar.htm
Thank you Idan, and everyone else at stocktock for the contributions. After starting my own website I realize it takes a loottt of work.
Hey Zee – share your website too
got some AIG sept 37 calls before the bell yesterday, should open up nicely as long as we have no suprises. -Stocks on my list today are GRRF, CGA, and possibly some UNG calls if I can getthem on some more weakness. – SOLF was on my list but is gapping up about 7% so I won’t chase that.
(iii) of 3 of minor C underway after wave 2 completed an ABC at 992. Target for wave3 of minor C is 1045 to 1050. wave 4 to 1030 and wave 5 to 1070 to 1080, just as woo predicted.
Hi Idan/everyone, been quite a regular visitor to the site for the past 10 months or so. I’ve found Idans charts insightful and well thought out and it’s interesting to see from everyones comments what the general consensus is from what is often a more bearish viewpoint than my own. Anyways just wanted to say hi and good luck to everyone with their trading.
Cheers,
skayfe
P.S. lovely right shoulder in the pipeline on the SPY over the next few days(hopefully;)
Jobless claims worse than estimated…
570,000 v 564,000 e. Meh, pretty much right on.
Carl has a clear chart backing his statement here.
http://carlfutia.blogspot.com/
His take Wednesday eve:
“Here is a 60 minute bar chart of day session e-mini trading. I think the drop from the 1038 level is over. Today’s low rests on the lower channel line, is just below midpoint support, and the drop from 1038 has been only slightly bigger than the August reaction (purple rectangles).”
“The market has absorbed yesterday’s supply shock remarkably well. I think a move to 1054 will get underway next week (n.b. the U.S. markets will be closed Monday for the Labor Day holiday).”
Buy 10 AXP JAN 27.5 PUT @ $1.00 order GT Sept 11. (Yup, I’m counting on another shoot up. Even if it doesn’t fill, I won’t lose anything.)
I think that’s a good stock to short, esp. via twitter/dougkass on shorting brokerage firms, asset managements and retail related stocks. I’m debating about shorting healthcare as well. I will add AXP to my watchlist. Thanks. Any bounces up today and/or tomorrow, I will buy these kind of puts for Jan-Mar 2010. Thanks.
Anyone out there tracking MOT; it was upgraded yesterday and went up 11% – seems too quick a rise in this market.
The rise yesterday is attributed to shortcovering in anticipation to Motorola’s sept 10th’s androis phone launch.
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINN021812420090902?rpc=44
I sold all my MOT yesterday EOD. But will reload when dip below 7.5 today and tomorrow.
Yesterday I was looking for 1004.5. It looks like we got 1004.25 in premarket. If my wave count is right, we should drop to 987.
Valerie from yesterdays question…..was at 25000ft when I got it?!? Part of me thinks it will still go lower buck or so before anymore upside. As I type there’s a little bit of a squeeze going on? damn…..
25000 AGL? Wow. Beats my 7800 elev here.
Not touching it (GS) so far this AM,
7800? wow. West of Denver or Idaho? Wish I could say from a cliff just below the peak of Everest but I fly for work…..Standing aside too until it figures where it’s going.
Watch for a possible 10:00 reversal
Possibly. Not much enthusiasm so far for this morning’s rally is there?
I’m not sure if it’s going to be a reversal, or just a strong move in one direction. So far we’re undecided.
I see both XLF and XLE out in front of SPY right now. That tells me that we are likely headed up from here today. We shall see.
Until proven otherwise just a nice bull flag forming on the RIFIN. I would love for that to fail! Check out the UUP? Getting hit over the last two days but the market doesn’t seem to care?
I think we sell the 10am news…..
Whoosh
Gap is closed. Now what?
Idan- just found the fibs post. thnx
Fib retracements from 1039 top back down toward 869 bottom:
0.0% 1039
11.8% 1019
23.6% 999
38.2% 974
50.0% 954
61.8% 934
76.4% 909
88.2% 889
100.0% 869
Fib retracements from 667 bottom back up toward 1576 all-time high:
0.0% 667
11.8% 774
23.6% 882
38.2% 1014
50.0% 1122
61.8% 1229
76.4% 1361
88.2% 1469
100.0% 1576
These are charted in box 23 below.
Oh yeah. Mucho graz
I doubt we go much lower today or tomorrow. Remember, tomorrow are the job numbers, from August, and they may want to ramp this market up before the Labor Day weekend. What’s the schedule next week, is Monday is a shortened day?
Either way, I expect them to get us somewhere between 1007 and 1017 before the next move lower.
Click on the briefing.com link in the second post this AM and you’ll find weekly economic release schedules.
Interesting. Another sell-off on good news. ISM in line to stronger than expected.
The EUR/JPY is losing it’s 50ma 10m with the 200ma sitting .25 below. This could bring us to a double bounce and perhaps a HS on the 10m GS JPM RIFIN….
Also just noticed the EUR/JPY just broke through the neckline of a HS with a .50 down target. UUP picking up too.
Will short FAS into oblivion tomorrow. I’ve mentioned before that 3X ETFs are designed to be long term losers.
There was a guy on here that would just short both FAZ and FAS. Assuming he stuck with it he made a nice gain on a riskless trade IMO.
thats what I have been doing….for longs I short FAZ and for shorts I short FAS
I will buy FAS Jan puts tomorrow (half in, and if it makes new highs again I’ll buy the other half). I will buy FAZ puts on November 23 for a quick profit run on a potential Santa rally.
bought 1000 QID at 27.00
Sold my shorts and let the market rally a bit.
Idan, are you still short BEN?
oh nope.. we covered that for a gain a while back..
which move did you catch? what’s your current outlook on this stock?
96$ to 91-92$.. it’s still overbought now.. i think it could move lower.. but another push higher is possible before hand.
Nice job catching the top. It apparently got upgraded today (hence the gap up), but this sort of reaction usually lasts little more than a day. I figured it was a decent entry point, esp. looking at the 30 min…looks like it’s about to roll over nicely.
and now we go to 1005-10 or market will go below 993 ? ( today )
S&P chart to supplement Idan’s SPY charts above, with megaphone and channels that he and I have been charting for some time, also our medium-term upwedge (mine is yellow above and turquoise below). The longer-term upwedge (heavy green support line) still needs to break out downside, along with a plunge thru some tough Fibs and other supports, before bears REALLY start to roar:
http://i31.tinypic.com/s452lg.png
Link to live chart (requires subscription):
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=D&b=7&g=0&id=p65334570664&a=175424283&listNum=2
this is not any kind of analysis, but the last time we had a 3 day weekend, we fell heavily the week before too and everyone thought the big H&S was coming to a completion, then Tuesday everyone came back and the bulls ripped the balls off of bears
I agree. I wouldn’t rule out a big push back to the 1030′s. It can happen quite easily especially if the bears have to cover their shorts.
got some SOLF and GRRF for swings.
I got some AMED, it’s down 30% because of 2 executives leaving for “personal reasons”.. I think it will recover most of its loses.. at least i’m up 2.5% already, got my stops in for profit. The market just likes to over react.
Hey Idan,
Do you think AMED is still a good buy at 32.6?
AMED could be a no go.. it’s a speculative play that the hedge fund took. Very small position.. keep stops where you feel comfortable. (there is an inverse H&S on the name, on the intraday scale).
Thanks Idan!
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Idan, do you see BAC, WFC & AIG as a good shorts? I’m thinking about buying some Sept puts on them. Thanks in advance.
I’m not sure that we’ve topped out for the day yet.. and september puts could lose a lot of value, i rather go with october.
This market is putting my feet to sleep.
Going out to sort thru next wk’s camp gear.
fire twice into the air quick if my TNA stop is close to being broken (62.85).
See yow in awhile
fcx that is
I will keep it above that for ya Val, I am in it too
I think Idan said he would avoid Sept puts because there is a potential to form a right shoulder and time will decay will kill the puts
yup, exactly.. although we need to complete the head first, which means 1.5-2% down from here, assuming the neckline is flat, but who knows? Lets not take risks yet.
Off work tomorrow and Monday. Market is boring. Time for a long weekend. Enjoy it everyone.
Idan,
which put options did you buy on JPM. Are they Sept puts and what is the strike?
thanks
I bought last week, and took profits on them yesterday, now i’m just shorting the name.. i recommend buying october if at all.
The way i’m playing this is the following:
Short JPM 1000 shares + Sold to open 10 calls at $44, + Sold to open 10 $39 puts.
I made about 0.90 cents premium total, and am holding a short.
What this means is that over the next 2 weeks AT LEAST, i’m bearish on the stock at 42$, and I see the stock being lower on expiration 2 weeks from this friday.
NEVERTHELESS, I don’t see the stock going below 39$ in the next 2 weeks, nor do i see it closing above 44$ on expiration.
The most i can make is if the stock closes at 39.01$ on friday of expiration. I will collect premium as the options expire worthless, and i’ll make the 7.3% gain from shorting the stock. After the options expiration I can continue holding my shorts and hope for more downside.
thanks for the reply Idan,
Is that your normal strategy when bearish on a stock. By buying calls & puts and shorting shares?
I’m not familiar with doing that. Where can I learn more about that.
Also, I usually just buy put options. What is your method for picking the strike price that you found to be the most effective. Do you buy in the money options, at the strike, or a bit out of the money?
thanks
Correction jbones.. I did not BUY puts.. I sold puts and bought calls. Make sure you don’t make that mistake.
This is not the only strategy i use, i use whatever i feel is best at the time due to volatility etc. Strike prices are used where strong resistances and strong supports are in place.
XOM getting closer to its triangle support @ $67.30 ish. I’m going to take profit on my XOM SEP 70 P at this level.
Market’s boring, let’s look at 5 stocks we can buy puts on (3months->Leaps)
PCLN- http://i29.tinypic.com/s6kj8p.jpg
ESI- http://i25.tinypic.com/2qd64o7.jpg
DECK- http://i31.tinypic.com/2h6g4lw.jpg
TRLG- http://i32.tinypic.com/2s0oiag.jpg
CMG- http://i29.tinypic.com/xmsiuq.jpg
Oh and if you like some fundamentals, here you go:
PCLN- Overvalued online travel. Unless you believe people will keep traveling as they did 4 years ago.
ESI- ITT Education, these guys have problems with people baying back loans.
DECK- Makers of Uggs, an obvious fad that has overstayed its welcome. Or maybe women will keep dropping $100+ for a pair?
CMG- Chipotle Mexican Grill. The stock is already $18 off its highs, wait for it to retrace first. It’s not like they sell $2 food, a meal here costs $8-10 as they use better ingredients than a MCD or !YUM Brands food.
I beileve market has to drop hard from here. My reason is that a lot bulls are in trap including me. We did not have stop loss in play on the september 1 sell off and now we are suffering a bad pain. We all are waiting for some bounce to get ride of our long but market is smart and knows what we are going to do. Any way I am going to hold my long even if market drops beacuse now I am down 80% and if it goes to 100% loss though it would not make too much difference.
They should create a new index that tracks the volatility in the VIX.
LOL, Morris that’s a good one.
Most charting software will display one or more measures of volatility of whatever is charted, one example being the standard deviation over a specified moving time period:
http://i25.tinypic.com/21dfjfs.png
Bollinger Band width is another, although not as good.
Looks like the 5 minute chart is about to form a right shoulder with the neckline at about 996.5 in the S&P 500 Cash index.
OK, seems as if the neckline is broken. However, the market seems oversold on a short term basis, so I don’t know how much further it has to go (987?).
Idan, thoughts on SHW as an intraday short?
Yeah, this guy got a nice bounce simply because it’s been oversold on the daily in my opinion. I don’t think it’s worth shorting here yet.. but it will be very soon.
on the daily it’s showing a potential descending wedge.. so that’s bullish for now.
Thanks, Idan. Appreciate your giving it a look.
What a boring day so far. After a little market pop this morning followed by a pull back, markets find a nice middle ground. Im up nicely in ABX (bought 40 calls yesterday) as well as in DECK (bought 65 puts on monday). Other than that the rest of my positions have been just hanging around. I have a feeling tomorrow will be much like today (slightly up with no real volatility in general). I say this knowing that nonfarm payrolls and unemployment get released tomorrow. Mainly i think the 3 day weekend will suck some of air out of things. I would actually like the markets to be up slightly going into the weekend, especially since i think september is going to end up negative for the indices. Up or down though, im sitting delta neutral with a huge chunk of jing in cash, just waiting to be unloaded on the next set of unsuspecting trades.
And in case you didnt get into DECK at the top of the right shoulder earlier this week, it is sitting just above its neckline right now. If it breaks below 63 i have a conservative target of 55 and an optimistic target of 48-49.
Poor vol of SPY
Even better reason to think the market’s next major move will be down
Thnx for holding fcx up ox-trader. I sold half a few minutes ago for about a buck a share profit and am holding the other half watching for any hint of EOD retrace. You get out near the top awhile ago?
yeeh-haw. buyers stepping back in.
So what’s it going to be… flat today and then we hit SPY 98ish after the un-employment number tomorrow or do we form right shoulder from here?
Flat today because of very low vol. Tomorrow low going into labor day -assuming low volume.
Out of fcx. Nice day trade.
Enjoyed following your posts today Idan.
Cheers till tomorrow.
buy order in for 1000 SDS @ 45.00; we’ll see if it hits.
no go
Morris…taking a chance before the job numbers ?
I think he knows what he was doing though. He didn’t get the fill so what does he have to lose? Nothing. A parabolic move up at EOD usually provides opportunities to short at EOD and cover at the open for some profit during the opening sweeping of stops on either side.
Actually, I’m just trying to establish short positions that I plan to hold longer term (working on the assumption that we may be headed lower in the weeks to come). I like to use QID and SDS for plays like that and I already have 1000 QID that I bought earlier in the day. I’ll try to get into the SDS position tomorrow.
I like to use the 3X ETFs for quick scalps. I also like to play the UCO/SCO 2X ETFs for scalps in oil.
I haven’t given any thought to the job numbers. I try to ignore the news since it is very difficult to predict how the market will respond to it. We have seen rallies on good news and selloffs on good news. We have seen rallies on bad news and selloffs on bad news. We have seen little to no market movement on both good and bad news.
I have noticed you seem to favor using inverse ETFs for shorting. Do you short stocks then?
Good point.
Idan,
What is your target for the VIX?
possibly 26.70 or minimum 25.80 and then a strong bounce…
It never rallied enough to hit my bid but I went short @ closing price of S&P. The parabolic rise at the end was good enough for me to get me in.
Can you guys tell me why you believe the parabolic move EOD means we fall tomorrow?
No it doesn’t necessarily mean we fall tomorrow. In my past experience, a parabolic move up at EOD means I can short at EOD and cover for at least a few ticks lower because the first 15 minutes the next morning is a sweep in both directions to clear some stop orders. Same applies for a parabolic shoot-down at EOD. I usually buy at the EOD on parabolic shoot-downs because the profit potential can be bigger (sell at more ticks higher than parabolic shoot-up).
It being parabolic was not the reason why I shorted. It was close enough to my bid that I chased a bit. I didn’t want to miss any potential big down moves tomorrow.
Please, no one hold overnight positions for the next 2 weeks.
I called the downtrend to bottom at September 3rd.. I was right.. back on August 7th with this chart
http://api.ning.com/files/Gqlg6sv4iUot38mFg51LQ3nCYgFbHUbSZWH*873GO*Fr-oa2o1wxklSDoUkKNyb838AykfWQzK7EaYi1GUwPizGln-TY5Jp2/spyfuturescycles.png
Now.. the cycle has ended. view my new post
http://api.ning.com/files/Gqlg6sv4iUot38mFg51LQ3nCYgFbHUbSZWH*873GO*Fr-oa2o1wxklSDoUkKNyb838AykfWQzK7EaYi1GUwPizGln-TY5Jp2/spyfuturescycles.png
According to cycle theory we have likely BOTTOMED
Ok. Found the link
http://social.stocktock.com/photo/esu9-daily_08072009_095546am?context=user
Dated August 7th, I said the first week of september will be the short-term bottom.
Are you saying do not hold overnight for the next 2 weeks if you are short or long? Are you implying that today is the bottom and we should see an uptrend for the next 2 weeks?
Zee – could you post the new chart please – both the charts are the same …
TIA
I don’t know anything about cycle theory but I’m interested. Are you saying that we are going to bottom next week then rally for 21 days? very interesting. it coincides nicely with one of the EW scenarios laid out at evilspeculator.com. I could believe it. although 21 days seems too long…
Idan, I noticed you are holding AMED. Do you see that stock going back up to $40 soon? I’m thinking about getting some Sept calls. Thanks.
Possibly.. but i don’t care.. i’m going to put a 1.5% stop under the stock and let it run.
Zee, It’s good to have someone doing cycles analysis.