This post by Unersaettlich has been promoted from StockTock Social.
At least two other views of the S&P chart seem at least as justifiable as what Tony C presented. One especially has existed significantly longer than the others and is far more straightforward. The attached chart shows all three approaches. In all of them, the S&P may have to work hard to get above current resistance from the 5-day and 20-day MA’s.
The top panel shows Tony C’s “expanding triangle” approach, which may indeed be correct. If subsequent S&P action is indeed “out of control,” $SPX will soon break trend lines, Fib levels, etc. that would confine prices in the other approaches. I may well have jinxed myself into suffering painful consequences from such events. I could not resist buying leveraged bear ETFs (including -3x ERY!) near their short-term bottoms occasioned by the S&P “recoveries” in the afternoons of Thursday and Friday. I agree with Tony and the rest of the world that these were the work of the PPT (and possibly other exogenous influences, given concurrent movements in commodities, currencies, etc.). If the S&P rises well above 1000 on this wave, I will have a nervous few days hoping for a huge drop to the other limb of the triangle just to get me back to nearly even.
The middle (dark blue) panel shows a rather clearly defined (in turquoise) channel, which looks (to me, anyway) to be as justified as the expanding triangle. It shows a consolidation in a trading range between the mid 800′s and upper 900′s that could continue for some time, being gleefully swing-traded by all us levered ETF weenies until something else happens.
The lower (dark red) panel is my preferred view. It shows the S&P bounded from above for weeks by the same well-defined power downtrend resistance line established along the tops of several hourly candles two months ago. Support runs along the 840ish bottoms (except for the PPT-engineered bear trap that served as a deep-fryer for a few zillion shorts and (now former) owners of margined bear ETFs). Much influence also comes from Fibs in between, especially the $1000ish 38.2% level and a number of short-term $1000ish tops and bottoms, and the other Fibs separated by almost exactly the psychologically significant amount of $50, as if $1000 weren’t psychological significance enough. The big downtrend line crosses the $1000 Fib almost exactly at the last top to reach that level. Under this scenario, that fat white downtrend has never been breached, and was tested only once in nearly two months. It is now just above the 20-day MA, possibly meaning the S&P might not reach 950 again for months or even years, to say nothing of visiting four-digit territory. Indeed, the pennant soon comes to a point, so if this is really the right scenario, the S&P could drop thru 800 next week, not to return for some time, unless the PPT has some major legerdemain on tap, which may need to be potent indeed, given the “bloody waterfall” plunges that occur after the mysterious rallies that come from nowhere. My, how impressed the G20 folks will be.

Tony C’s chart and commentary were plagairized, almost word for word, with no credit given, from page 140 and 141 of John Murphy’s “Technical Analysis of Financial Markets.”
Good for you Left
Tony C isn’t giving his free and expert analysis as an academic paper, he’s applying the probably 30 years additional experience over what you have to give us a chance in this market – but you have to try and rubbish all the time and energy he has been placing over to the world – grow-up Left
I would add that Tony C has combined analysis of a Broadening Formation and a Pennant in his views, as such he has in no way directly lifted (or plagarized as you say Left) the contents of John Murphy’s work – we could also add that John Murphy likely pulled his textbook and static 101 examples from others before him… – Tony C on the other hand is applying all these and other technicals in a dynamically changing system in real-time
the whole triangle looks like a big ass MA pattern. Thursday/ Friday definitely we have formed an “M”, waiting for an “A?” = dbl confirmation
Isn’t it pretty compelling to think that a 50% pullback from the highs (in the case of the NASDAQ about 1350?) is a minimum downside target?
Or is that retracement concept too simple in today’s complicated trading world?
I can see the same thing going on the the Dow 30. (7200?)
Comments?
Why isn’t there anyone bothering about linking any possible scenarios with the actual “real” economy? Terrible economic news are falling down on us right now, which of course help to explain the recent moves we have have seen lately. Then we can surely deduct that forthcoming news will drive the market in one way or the other. TA alone can’t explain and predict everything !
Correct, but TA can allow you to attempt to predict movements such as breakouts or breakdowns and also support and resistance. I find it invaluable in determining direction and entry and exit points for trades. Take a look at daily chart BAC. For those that got caught in the value trap earlier this year, it could have been avoided. There was a clear symetrical triangle that fromed from Jan thru may that indicated the future breakdown of BAC. TA can be invaluable in making bothe purchasing and sell decisions.
Anyone care to elaborate on the counterparty risk in leveraged ETFs? My own due diligence is not turning up anything meaningful for downside risk in an otherwise lucrative crash scenario. Thanks
Waiting4God…by the way me too! Regarding going long on the short ETFs, I agree. The only downside would be if you were on margin during a bounce. I am 100% in and just waiting…I don’t have the time or guts to play the bounce up. I’ll get out when at the end of the day on the crash. I’m not sure what could prevent a crash at this point.
Agreed, the margin calls from holding the short etf’s…are just making everyone sweat. These daily shake outs from the major players are just cruel.
What kind of trading tools do you guys use? I have been using investools and was wondering if you knew of something that didnt cost so much? Also was looking for something that you could use charting on for a cell phone. Thanks
Any decent brokerage account provides sufficient tools to do any analysis.
stockcharts.com and thinkorswim.com seem to be the charting sites most people use. stockcharts.com just announced something to do with cell phones. I like stockcharts.com because it gives me a lot of control over parameters of indicators. I can use BB(140,2) to generate 20-day, 2 SD Bollinger bands on an hourly chart or even something as weird as MA(325) to put an approximate 5-week MA on a half-hour chart (5 weeks x 5 days/wk x 13 half-hrs/day = 325 half-hrs per 5 weeks). I don’t know why one might want to do that particular voodoo, but similar stuff has helped with recent charts, where half-hour indicators have been useful (to me), regardless of the chart interval, so I used MACD 24,52,18 and MACD 6,13,5 to generate a half-hourly MACD 12,26,9 on a 15-min chart and on an hourly chart.
The S & P formed a short-term double top around 915 on thursday and friday. The second time it reached 915 was on drastically less momentum and clearly failed to hold.
Did anyone else notice this bearish divergence? Will more weakness come on Monday?
This guy discusses the weakness and its sources at length and also uses my third pattern above (on the Dow instead of the S&P):
http://www.shadowtrader.net/videos/sunday111608st.html
yes, noticed that. They call that..”the kiss of death”
Here is a good video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SakscCX44tg
Nice charts. I’ll follow all three scenarios. I prefer the last two. If they breakout to the upside then Tony C’s is in play. I do not like Tony’s because I do not think there is enough buyers to complete his formation. If bulls could not push the market up friday it’s not going up. There were multitude of TA formations that led to a breakout Friday and the all failed. Back in perma bear mode.
a market historian’s perspective well worth to heed to:
A Bounce IS Due?
the link:
http://commoditywatch.podbean.com/
thanks gr. That was great.
I believe the PPT was influencing the market through the election, but with the election over, there is no more reason to believe in any coordinated manipulation. The Democrats would prefer a crash now as opposed to later and the Republicans don’t care one way or the other. Assume that all the forces now are real and natural. We all have bad days and the ever-changing patterns are due more to high-speed internet communication of the latest pattern of the hour than some evil hand.
Here’s a link to a static image of a daily $SPX chart that adds a fourth alternative and expands on the white wedge:
http://i33.tinypic.com/2i3xit.jpg
(If you click on the image enough in the right place(s), you get a crisp chart that just fits the usual 1280×1024 screen)
Link to live chart (probably requires subscription to stockcharts.com):
http://tinyurl.com/576aey
Besides repeating the white wedge and Tony’s expanding triangle, this chart introduces a possible VERY bearish scenario, in which the S&P has been moving in a series of increasingly nasty downtrend channels (turquoise), the newest of which (dotted turquoise) is very ugly indeed (and is still intact at the close 16 Nov). It also shows how the white wedge can possibly be from a somewhat less ugly, but still dreadful, new downtrend channel which is still steeper than its predecessors. A breakout above the white top line could still be part of a horizontal chopping consolidation between 840ish and 1000ish that has persisted for some time (and maybe that’s all there is, and we chart weenies are just drawing lines between coincidentally aligned points), but if we get significant action above 1000, then Tony’s scenario comes into play. We can also see how the breakdown this fall of the 38.2% Fib between Oct 2007′s top of 1576 and Oct 2002′s 770ish bottom led to the nasty plunge from 1265 to 840ish in three weeks. Whatever happens from here, it doesn’t feel to me as though we are finding a bottom, more like an exercise in “Continuation Patterns 101″:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNAx600JzCI
Just as we see consolidations after rapid big rises before the upward action resumes, we are probably getting a chance to sell long positions into the top of the chop and be ultrashort until the next swing bottoms, then either get long again or be a coward like me and sit on cash.