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		<title>By: E-mini</title>
		<link>http://www.focalequity.com/2008/11/12/intraday-commentary-111208/comment-page-4/#comment-10623</link>
		<dc:creator>E-mini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUGGESTION:

Please let me know what everyone thinks:

I just spent 20-min going thru all of the previous posts to see if any new comments were added to them. Very Time consuming and unproductive.

I am Suggesting that ALL posts be added at the bottom of the page as a NEW post and if they are in comment or follow up to a previous post, just reference the posting # at the begginning of the message. 

This should eliminate the need to look back at all of the postings and allow us to look back exactly to the posting # we are interested in .

Just a thought.

Thank you in advance, for any suggestions you may have on this matter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUGGESTION:</p>
<p>Please let me know what everyone thinks:</p>
<p>I just spent 20-min going thru all of the previous posts to see if any new comments were added to them. Very Time consuming and unproductive.</p>
<p>I am Suggesting that ALL posts be added at the bottom of the page as a NEW post and if they are in comment or follow up to a previous post, just reference the posting # at the begginning of the message. </p>
<p>This should eliminate the need to look back at all of the postings and allow us to look back exactly to the posting # we are interested in .</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
<p>Thank you in advance, for any suggestions you may have on this matter</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn we hit my profit objectoin after hours... oh well i exited my short near the intraday bottom. tomorrow should be an intresting session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn we hit my profit objectoin after hours&#8230; oh well i exited my short near the intraday bottom. tomorrow should be an intresting session.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s exactly what happened to me too. I sold SDS @ SPX 886 or so and today I am cursing my haste in selling. I have no feeling for the short term market direction now. I will say that in over a year of being in and out of SKF, SDS etc. and obsessively following the economy, I have never felt so much gloom before. All news and all opinions are bleak. I do not consider this a contrarian opportunity. On the contrary, I believe that we are marching straight into a depression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s exactly what happened to me too. I sold SDS @ SPX 886 or so and today I am cursing my haste in selling. I have no feeling for the short term market direction now. I will say that in over a year of being in and out of SKF, SDS etc. and obsessively following the economy, I have never felt so much gloom before. All news and all opinions are bleak. I do not consider this a contrarian opportunity. On the contrary, I believe that we are marching straight into a depression.</p>
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		<title>By: mav</title>
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		<dc:creator>mav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am expecting a rally tomorrow sure, since I am optimistic. But none of the key charts I watch are giving me buy triggers. GS was very close to a buy trigger today and never went off. I kept waiting all day.

The bulls need to save 845 on the cash tomorrow. That is their best bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am expecting a rally tomorrow sure, since I am optimistic. But none of the key charts I watch are giving me buy triggers. GS was very close to a buy trigger today and never went off. I kept waiting all day.</p>
<p>The bulls need to save 845 on the cash tomorrow. That is their best bet.</p>
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		<title>By: MktMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>MktMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see too much more pumping than usual. A lot less TA though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see too much more pumping than usual. A lot less TA though.</p>
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		<title>By: pmesdjian</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmesdjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments from GS

NY ROUNDUP – Wednesday, November 12, 2008 

HIGHLIGHTS 

US Treasury Paulson: Moves TARP away from buying assets, wants more capital infusions 
EIA: US 2008 oil demand to drop by 1.1 mln bpd 
FED Governor Kohn: May need more steps to soothe markets 
Japan may provide IMF with 10 trillion JPY of aid – part of G20 discussion 

COMMENTS 
The scorecard for US markets today was bearish – the fifth down day in six.  Equities down 5.2%; VIX up 5 to 65; Oil down 5.7% to $55.90, copper, gold both about the same; US 1M Tbills pay 6 bps and 2Y 1.16% while 10Y bonds survived new supply and close 3.65% - auction had lowest demand of the year but was better than its German Bund counterpart in Europe. USD loses against the JPY by 2.75%, gains against most everything else – with AUD off 2.8%; GBP off 2.7%; CAD 2.2%.  Oddly EUR was almost unchanged.  The pressure to further deleverage positions was driven by four factors today: 1) Overnight concerns about growth.  We opened with futures offered and with most people talking about China stimulus being too little, too late.  Many also pointed to continuing bad equity news, bankruptcies and a stall in spread improvements such as LIBOR.  2) US Treasury Paulson.  His comments today set the tone for the equity market as further capital injections into the financial sector is taken as dilution of shares. Furthermore, removing the potential US government bid for illiquid mortgage related securities added to concerns about bank portfolios and further write-downs.  3) Continued commodity moves. Some would say that this is a barometer not a driver but weak commodities are the front line of production  Demand side of the commodity equation always seems the most difficult to calculate but the EIA report today suggests something many were thinking – that the US recession will drive significant drops in commodity demand and therefore prices.  This led to more selling – and kept the commodity linked currencies offered.  EUR didn’t react but seems unlikely to be able to ignore the usual correlation of oil to EUR. 4) Outlooks – weak sales, more jobs cuts.  As we close Intel cuts its 4Q revenue forecast; Best Buy lowered its forecast earlier, MS and AIG promise more job cuts. Bottom line – the markets got nothing bullish today except one tiny sliver of hope at the end of the day – Japan is dusting off its G7 offer to give the IMF $1 trn for a rescue fund.  The bounce back risk given the extended shove lower in risk assets may be worth considering into the Asian open – as G20 meeting hopes will only get larger with more news headlines hitting the tape.  Unfortunately, the G20 meeting seems to be the panacea for many problems and has even more drivers – as the French offer up a Bretton Woods 3, the US a push for stimulus, the Brazilians a move for more open trade, others for more financial regulations.  The fear will be that all of these efforts may be incompatible and perhaps late.  We appear to be pushing on a string.  Money into a broken financial system has lost its ability to leverage any return – making the exercise of central banks and government officials that much harder to stimulate some sort of new growth into 2009.  

CURRENCIES                     
Cross            Low         High 
EUR/USD        1.2466     1.2613         Close: 1.2510 
USD/JPY           94.48      97.72       Close: 95.56 
EUR/JPY         118.10     123.22        Close: 119.55 
GBP/USD         1.4895     1.5344        Close: 1.4961  
EUR/GBP         0.8201     0.8412        Close: 0.8362 
USD/CHF         1.1762     1.1887        Close: 1.1870 
EUR/CHF         1.4710     1.4923        Close: 1.4849 
AUD/USD         0.6348     0.6646        Close: 0.6390  
USD/CAD         1.2051     1.2384        Close: 1.2369  
NZD/USD         0.5554     0.5785        Close: 0.5616</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments from GS</p>
<p>NY ROUNDUP – Wednesday, November 12, 2008 </p>
<p>HIGHLIGHTS </p>
<p>US Treasury Paulson: Moves TARP away from buying assets, wants more capital infusions<br />
EIA: US 2008 oil demand to drop by 1.1 mln bpd<br />
FED Governor Kohn: May need more steps to soothe markets<br />
Japan may provide IMF with 10 trillion JPY of aid – part of G20 discussion </p>
<p>COMMENTS<br />
The scorecard for US markets today was bearish – the fifth down day in six.  Equities down 5.2%; VIX up 5 to 65; Oil down 5.7% to $55.90, copper, gold both about the same; US 1M Tbills pay 6 bps and 2Y 1.16% while 10Y bonds survived new supply and close 3.65% &#8211; auction had lowest demand of the year but was better than its German Bund counterpart in Europe. USD loses against the JPY by 2.75%, gains against most everything else – with AUD off 2.8%; GBP off 2.7%; CAD 2.2%.  Oddly EUR was almost unchanged.  The pressure to further deleverage positions was driven by four factors today: 1) Overnight concerns about growth.  We opened with futures offered and with most people talking about China stimulus being too little, too late.  Many also pointed to continuing bad equity news, bankruptcies and a stall in spread improvements such as LIBOR.  2) US Treasury Paulson.  His comments today set the tone for the equity market as further capital injections into the financial sector is taken as dilution of shares. Furthermore, removing the potential US government bid for illiquid mortgage related securities added to concerns about bank portfolios and further write-downs.  3) Continued commodity moves. Some would say that this is a barometer not a driver but weak commodities are the front line of production  Demand side of the commodity equation always seems the most difficult to calculate but the EIA report today suggests something many were thinking – that the US recession will drive significant drops in commodity demand and therefore prices.  This led to more selling – and kept the commodity linked currencies offered.  EUR didn’t react but seems unlikely to be able to ignore the usual correlation of oil to EUR. 4) Outlooks – weak sales, more jobs cuts.  As we close Intel cuts its 4Q revenue forecast; Best Buy lowered its forecast earlier, MS and AIG promise more job cuts. Bottom line – the markets got nothing bullish today except one tiny sliver of hope at the end of the day – Japan is dusting off its G7 offer to give the IMF $1 trn for a rescue fund.  The bounce back risk given the extended shove lower in risk assets may be worth considering into the Asian open – as G20 meeting hopes will only get larger with more news headlines hitting the tape.  Unfortunately, the G20 meeting seems to be the panacea for many problems and has even more drivers – as the French offer up a Bretton Woods 3, the US a push for stimulus, the Brazilians a move for more open trade, others for more financial regulations.  The fear will be that all of these efforts may be incompatible and perhaps late.  We appear to be pushing on a string.  Money into a broken financial system has lost its ability to leverage any return – making the exercise of central banks and government officials that much harder to stimulate some sort of new growth into 2009.  </p>
<p>CURRENCIES<br />
Cross            Low         High<br />
EUR/USD        1.2466     1.2613         Close: 1.2510<br />
USD/JPY           94.48      97.72       Close: 95.56<br />
EUR/JPY         118.10     123.22        Close: 119.55<br />
GBP/USD         1.4895     1.5344        Close: 1.4961<br />
EUR/GBP         0.8201     0.8412        Close: 0.8362<br />
USD/CHF         1.1762     1.1887        Close: 1.1870<br />
EUR/CHF         1.4710     1.4923        Close: 1.4849<br />
AUD/USD         0.6348     0.6646        Close: 0.6390<br />
USD/CAD         1.2051     1.2384        Close: 1.2369<br />
NZD/USD         0.5554     0.5785        Close: 0.5616</p>
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		<title>By: Schweizer135</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schweizer135</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>INTC yanked the rug AH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>INTC yanked the rug AH.</p>
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		<title>By: Shanky "Mr. LONG (is gone)"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shanky "Mr. LONG (is gone)"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massive breakdown on ES after hrs. I&#039;m so depressed I exited shorts yesterday. Cost me 7 pts on SDS and 12 on EEV. Can&#039;t argue with $$ in pocket. Did not make a diciplined trade and hauled as too early. Actually Kenny&#039;s chart got me. I sold at his point. Should have stuck with Craig. What an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massive breakdown on ES after hrs. I&#8217;m so depressed I exited shorts yesterday. Cost me 7 pts on SDS and 12 on EEV. Can&#8217;t argue with $$ in pocket. Did not make a diciplined trade and hauled as too early. Actually Kenny&#8217;s chart got me. I sold at his point. Should have stuck with Craig. What an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Protrade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Protrade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like a bottom in natural gas, oh wait thats just my bottom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a bottom in natural gas, oh wait thats just my bottom!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SSO down after hours - 24.3</description>
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